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Want the number for the plant supervisor or Sr. Engineer,  so you can bitch about the early failure? <G Yeah Gunner, I do. I don't think the valve head shoulda dropped off. I took good care of that trimmer. But even more of a bitch is when I went to buy a new one. The Troy-Bilt web site lists Lowe's as the only retailer. I did find other sources but they were all mail order. On top of that, Lowe's doesn't carry all the models listed. I wanted to get an exact replacement but the trimmers with the 26 cc motor at Lowe's didn't come with the two part shaft. The web site shows one though. So I bought the 29 cc model. It may have a little more power, but not 30 bucks more. And finally, the Troy-Bilt web site says to call the retailer for more info about the trimmers. There is no number given to speak to a Troy-Bilt employee. I did try calling Lowe's for info. Three times. And each time I got their expert . None of these guys knew jack about the 4 stroke trimmers. One even contradicted the web site info. And the web site info was correct.  Still, I bought another one of the things because they seem to be the only 4-stroke trimmers available that burn straight gas. Stihl makes a 4 stroke trimmer but it uses 50:1 gas:oil mix. I guess this is to avoid oil in the crankcase. But if you gotta mix gas and oil why not just get a 2 stroke? The 4 stroke does get better mileage but it's not like a weed trimmer is gonna burn much gas. ERS Contact info emailed. 2 stroke engines are now illegal in California.  We cannot buy most of the recons from Harbor Freight either.  4 stroke or some selected grandfathered in units.  Check the HF online ads..not for sale in California..etc etc etc. Everything is grandfathered, but no new sales of 2 strokes in the Golden State. Gunner If  thy pride is sorely vexed when others disparage your offering, be as lamb's wool is to cold  rain and  the Gore-tex  of Odin's raiment is to  gullshit in the gale,   for thy angst shall vex them not at all.   Yea, they shall scorn thee all the more.      Rejoice in sharing what you have to share without expectation of  adoration, knowing  that sharing your treasure does not diminish your treasure but enriches it. - Onni   1:33

On Sat, 20 May 2006 17:02:33 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it quickly quoth:  If that _link_ doesn't work then go to MTD's home page, click on parts and accessories , and then launch illustrated search engine . http://www.mtdproducts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/corporate/index.jsp Btw..they are made in Chandler/Mesa Arizona.   Want the number for the plant supervisor or Sr. Engineer,  so you can bitch about the early failure? <G Bolens, Yard Machine, Cub Cadet, Troy-Built, and McCulloch products are all THAT good, eh?   Actually McCulloch isn't made by MTD. They just source the parts for the overseas manufacturer who bought the rights to the name. When that manufacturer first started selling them they said they didn't need a parts source. Then when they got everyone mad do to no parts availability they made a agreement with MTD to be there parts supplier for the US so that maybe someone would by there saws.

Needless to say..they make good parts now. And coolant temperatures both winter and summer made a fair amount of difference also..it being in Aridzona next to Phoenix BTDT and was installing A/C units on extremely hot engines in new trucks for a dealer one summer. Suckage Factor: 100%  I moved back to LoCal right after that.

On Sat, 20 May 2006 17:02:33 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it quickly quoth:  If that _link_ doesn't work then go to MTD's home page, click on parts and accessories , and then launch illustrated search engine . http://www.mtdproducts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/corporate/index.jsp Btw..they are made in Chandler/Mesa Arizona.   Want the number for the plant supervisor or Sr. Engineer,  so you can bitch about the early failure? <G Bolens, Yard Machine, Cub Cadet, Troy-Built, and McCulloch products are all THAT good, eh?  Actually McCulloch isn't made by MTD. They just source the parts for the overseas manufacturer who bought the rights to the name. When that manufacturer first started selling them they said they didn't need a parts source. Then when they got everyone mad do to no parts availability they made a agreement with MTD to be there parts supplier for the US so that maybe someone would by there saws. OK.  So how does that affect their reliability (or lack thereof), which was the main thread here?

On Sat, 20 May 2006 17:02:33 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it quickly quoth:  If that _link_ doesn't work then go to MTD's home page, click on parts and accessories , and then launch illustrated search engine . http://www.mtdproducts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/corporate/index.jsp Btw..they are made in Chandler/Mesa Arizona.   Want the number for the plant supervisor or Sr. Engineer,  so you can bitch about the early failure? <G Bolens, Yard Machine, Cub Cadet, Troy-Built, and McCulloch products are all THAT good, eh?  Actually McCulloch isn't made by MTD. They just source the parts for the overseas manufacturer who bought the rights to the name. When that manufacturer first started selling them they said they didn't need a parts source. Then when they got everyone mad do to no parts availability they made a agreement with MTD to be there parts supplier for the US so that maybe someone would by there saws. OK.  So how does that affect their reliability (or lack thereof), which was the main thread here?   Well personally I wouldn't have one (or any of the other low end chain saws) even if I can get parts for it now days.