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A vampire plays combat ends as one of his strikes. The opposing vampire was playing under the effects undead persistence. a) Can the vampire playing combat ends play amaranth against the vampire fighting under undead persistence? (Sorry to ask such a silly question, but a tournament level p_layer_ did it in our last game, so I would like some kind of official confirmation to post in our newsgroup) b) Can any of the vampires play Taste of vitae at any point after the S: CE, just to discard it? (Another dumb question, but the guy said Taste of vitae had some kind of errata allowing it, since it was end of the round, or something like that...) Thanks a lot for your time and patience.

b) Can any of the vampires play Taste of vitae at any point after the S: CE, just to discard it? Taste can be played if the round ends during strike resolution, yes. (After S:CE, after knocking someone into torpor or the ash heap, etc.)

gabusanvtes < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message A vampire plays combat ends as one of his strikes. The opposing vampire was playing under the effects undead persistence. a) Can the vampire playing combat ends play amaranth against the vampire fighting under undead persistence? No. The Undead Persistence guy won't go to torpor until after combat, so isn't a valid target for Amaranth. Amaranth says 'should go to torpor'. Undead persistance does nothing to take away the 'should go to torpor', it just takes away the 'go to torpor'. So it should be possible to play Amaranth at the same time one would play Undead Persistance? (resulting in fact in the diablerie) And yes, this would not make sense //Doc.

gabusanvtes < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message A vampire plays combat ends as one of his strikes. The opposing vampire was playing under the effects undead persistence. a) Can the vampire playing combat ends play amaranth against the vampire fighting under undead persistence? No. The Undead Persistence guy won't go to torpor until after combat, so isn't a valid target for Amaranth. Amaranth says 'should go to torpor'. Undead persistance does nothing to take away the 'should go to torpor', it just takes away the 'go to torpor'. So it should be possible to play Amaranth at the same time one would play Undead Persistance? (resulting in fact in the diablerie) That is not the question above - the question above is: B plays Undead Persistence (inferior). In a subsequent round of the combat (while the Undead Persistence is still in effect), combat ends (via a strike to end combat resolving). Can A play Amaranth on B? The answer, as above, is: No.

Amaranth says 'should go to torpor'. Undead persistance does nothing to take away the 'should go to torpor', it just takes away the 'go to torpor'. So it should be possible to play Amaranth at the same time one would play Undead Persistance? (resulting in fact in the diablerie) That is not the question above Correct. It is an entirely new question //Doc.